156. Mary SCHLEGEL Golden
Not a natural child of John & Katherina, but a Sames relative;
157. Laura BARKER
An adopted child, who married first to George C. Rose, second to F. Hahn and third to Frank C. Van Winkle, Jr.
130. Mary Ann SCHMIDT
Mary Ann Schmidt Ramshaw, born in Will County, Illinois 4 March 1860, the daughter of Christian Schmidt and Christina Geins; married William Ramshaw on 16 Feb 1882 in St. Clair County (Mary was his second wife); Mary died on 14 Apr 1896 of pneumonia and is buried in Troy City Cemetery, along with her husband William and his third wife, Ann. Mary’s obituary describes her as a “kind and loving wife and mother and a very industrious woman.” In the Edwardsville Intelligencer on 14 June 1895 it is noted under Troy news that “Mr. & Mrs. William Ramshaw visited the parents of the former in Lebanon last week.” Hopefully this means that Christina Schmidt was alive at this point, as well, because in Mary’s obituary in 1896 it indicates she is survived by her father, 4 brothers (?) and 6 sisters.
William married Ann Mary Wild on 22 July 1899. On the 1900 census William indicates he came to the U.S. in 1880; on the 1910 census the Ramshaws live next door to the Walker family (their daughter, Lizzie, married Walter Monroe, nephew of Mary Ramshaw). William Ramshaw was born 29 Jul 1852 in Lumley, County Durham, England, the son of Joseph Ramshaw and Ann Anton, and died 25 June 1912 in Troy, Madison Co., IL; he is buried in Troy City Cemetery. He had been stricken with “acute ascending paralysis” while at the mine. He also was the proprietor of the Brookside Hotel in Troy. Before emigrating to the U.S., Wm. Ramshaw was married and had 3 children, but the wife and all 3 children died. At his death, William was survived by 3 brothers and a sister in England. His third wife, Ann, died on 24 Feb 1927 [she was born 24 June 1856 in Lancashire, England, daughter of Thomas Wild and Mary Marseland] Ann is buried at the Troy City Cemetery. Out-of-town visitors at her funeral were the Monroes and Schmidts of Lebanon and the Alexander family of O’Fallon. One of Ann’s obituary indicated that she had been in failing health for 3 years following an operation for stomach trouble.
167. Mollie RAMSHAW
Mollie Ramshaw, born late 1885 or early 1886 Troy, IL; , killed on 18 Feb 1893 (age 7) after burning to death. According to Rosa Hull, she had sat down on the kitchen stove to put on her stockings and shoes, and her gown caught fire, burning her to death. According to Mollie’s obituary, Mary had just gone out to the well to get a bucket of water, and the well was a distance from the house. The child was playing with her sister (Annie?), and came running from the house engulfed in flames. Mary tried to put the fire out by wrapping her in a blanket, but the fire had already done its deadly work. Mary was so badly burned on the hands and arms that she was unable to attend Mollie’s funeral. Mollie is buried at Troy Cemetery (no headstone).
168. Annie RAMSHAW
Annie Ramshaw, born Nov 1888, Troy; still living in Troy on the 1910 census, age 21. In 1916 she is living in St. Louis and is reported in the local newspaper to have been visiting friends in Collinsville. In 1920 she is working for a hospital on Arsenal Street in St. Louis, still single and age 31. In 1926 according to a local newspaper, she is living with brother Thomas in Los Angeles, but in 1927 she is not listed as surviving her stepmother. No marriage found for her or date of death.
174. Charles SCHMIDT
This couple had no children. Charles was a state highway superintendent employed at Summerfield.
132. Catherina SCHMIDT
. Mathematicians will notice here that the couple married a year after the birth of their first child. Because times were so difficult back then, it frequently happened that couples would wed "unofficially" and set up housekeeping, with the intent of making the trip to Belleville for the expensive license as soon as they were able. Catherine Schmidt Monroe died 20 Jun 1943 at her home in Lebanon, Illinois. One of Catherine's brothers, Christian Schmidt, had a son named Damon Schmidt who went to Detroit, Michigan with William Monroe, the son of Catherine and Joshua. Damon is still living and remembers Kate Monroe (Aunt Kate) as being a very kind woman with a great personality. He says she always wore aprons that hung down really low -- usually kind of drab in color, but she always had one on. Times were tight and at one time she lived with them.
At his death, Joshua and his mule were buried while working with Joshua's son, Walter, on Walter's first day of work in the mines. His obituary is incredible, and states that "Monroe was at work in one of the seams of the mine. He was drafting coal, and had not properly braced the roof, and at a moment when he least thought of danger, several tons of slate fell upon him and crushed out his life. So massive was the slate and debris that pinioned him to the floor of the room it was necessary to use jackscrews in rescuing him. When taken out of the mine, Monroe was found to be almost beyond recognition. There was scarcely a bone in the unfortunate man's body but what was broken." Joshua was a member of the United Mine Workers and the Red Men (a group that later branched into the Red Cross during World War I). After the death of Joshua Edward, his wife, mother and children moved to Litchfield, Illinois for a short time, where work in the mines was abundant, but they moved back to the O'Fallon/Troy area around 1915, and then later back to Lebanon.
133. Annie SCHMIDT
After their marriage, Christian forbid the family to see Annie because she had married a first cousin, but many of them sneaked off on trips to visit her anyway.
186. John SONNENBERG
Lives in Elizabeth, New Jersey
187. Elizabeth SONNENBERG
Married Unknown Hemmer. Lives in O’Fallon, Illinois.
188. Margaret SONNENBERG
Married Unknown Mayer. Lives in St. Louis
189. Anna SONNENBERG
Married Unknown Bates. Lives in St. Louis.
190. Theresa SONNENBERG
Lives in Wood River, Illinois.
135. Elizabeth SCHMIDT
Known children of Elizabeth and William:
1. William Villhard, Jr., born Jan 1895 Lebanon, Illinois; married but no children
2. Julia Villhard, born June 1896 Lebanon, Illinois [IS THIS JOSEPHINE?]
3. Josephine B. Villhard Moore [NEED TO FIND HER]
4. Leroy Villhard, born abt 1906; Leroy married Lucille ? (born 1912), and was living in O’Fallon, IL in 1930; their children were Arthur, born 1930 (residing O’Fallon 632-3896; he knows very little, but I have sent him info we have).
5. Giles Villhard, born abt 1912; died 7 Dec 1945 Belleville, Illinois; no children born to Giles
William was born in Illinois abt 1858, father born Germany, mother born Minnesota.
191. William VILLHARD
Married but no children.
193. Josephine VILLHARD
Married Unknown Moore.
136. Hester SCHMIDT
Hester’s sister, Rosa Hull thinks that Hester may have had breast cancer; she had something on her breast that she was treating with kerosene. In 1900 this family is living in Emma, Harvey County, Kansas. Hester is buried in Galva, Empire Cemetery; died in McPherson Co. Hospital (gall bladder infection).
In 1930 Ben is living in Galva, McPherson Co., KS with a second wife, May Seifried (born 1872).
Married Pearl Bonham and Lila Imel; lived in Kansas and died on 15 Apr 1963; no children born to Louis.
199. Mae Matilda SEIFRIED
married Sam McMurray and Fred Waddell; lived in Lone Tree, McPherson Co. Kansas in 1930 along with their son, Sam, age 1. Mae died 4 Jan 1990 in Kansas (unknown county); children of Mae and Sam:
a. Samuel Henry McMurray, Jr., born 7 Jan 1929 and married Virginia Carol Babcock on 22 Nov 1948 (Virginia was born 9 Mar 1929 and died 22 Nov 1948).
Cchildren of Samuel and Virginia were: Vickie Lynn McMurray, born 27 Jan 1953; and Bradley Kent McMurray, born 26 Sep 1955.
Married Evelyn Mary Gevaar; lived in the state of Washington. Evelyn was born 29 Oct 1907 and died 13 May 2002 in Chewelah, Stevens Co., Washington. They adopted Cydney Gunter Seifried, born Washington summer of 1949.
He married Gladys ? and had a stepson
137. Christian SCHMIDT
Christian was a coal miner, was inflicted with ‘black lung’ in mid-life and could not perform manual labor. Christian and Bertha endured many hardships in those days before social security, worker’s comp, etc., but managed to stay together and get all their children off to a good start in life. They lived out their remaining years in their home at 607 West Schuetz Street in Lebanon.; he was also a retired sheet metal worker; his funeral was handled by Meyer Funeral Home with Rev. Howard Poetter, pastor of St. Paul’s UCC officiating; he and Bertha were buried at College Hill Cemetery;
Bertha was the daughter of Albert Yeager and Rebekah Cloud, possibly of Indian descent.
202. Cethel SCHMIDT
Married to Wm. Chaplin, living Martinez, Calif. 1961
204. Eva Mary SCHMIDT
Married to William Pullen, living Martinez, Calif. 1961
207. Cleola SCHMIDT
Married to Earl Schlesinger, living Freeburg 1961; Earl died March 1980 in Freeburg.
She was survived by two sons: Earl Fred Schlesinger of Freeburg, but now of Hawaii, and Dale E. Schlesinger of Funk School Rd., Freeburg (618) 566-8230. Dale Schlesinger passed away on 11 Jan 2004. Timothy Schlesinger (566-7841).
208. Florence SCHMIDT
Married to Harold Penner (1910-1993) Sep 28, 1940.
Florence worked as a housemaid in Lebanon until she heard about the good wages (38 cents per hour) paid in Detroit, and left her home town for the big city in 1938. She met Harold Penner there, and they married Sep 28, 1940.
During the war, Harold got a job as a plant guard for Dow Chemical Co. in Midland, Michigan. While on duty one evening, he accidently entered an area he shouldn’t have, got a whiff of a secret gas Dow was working on, which damaged his throat. Of course, in those times before Worker’s Comp, etc., since he was now unable to perform he was out of a job.
They moved back to Detroit, and, with $1500 borrowed from sister Cethel, purchased a home in 1944 at 13381 Glenfield Ave. Thanks to Florence’s ‘over the back fence’ gossiping with Mrs. Henning two doors down, Harold found work as a clockmaker, a trade he had apprenticed in under a Mr. Sikorsky when he was 16 years old. He stuck with it, eventually bought Henning Clock Service Center from the Henning family, and became Chairman Emeritus of the Detroit area clockmaker trade before his retirement in 1985.
Florence was a Cub Scout Den Mother, was very devoted to the raising of her sons, and did not work out of her home until both sons left home to pursue their own careers. She then went to work with Harold at Henning, becoming the ‘front counter girl’ and the ‘shipping department’. Their children:
1. Bruce Wallace Penner, born 11 Nov 1941. Married Susan J. Hunter 15 Jan 1967, divorced in 1997. Married Jean M. Falke in 1997. Resides at 7534 Robinson Rd, Petersburg, MI 49270 in 2003. Co-founder of the Thunder Rocks, 1958-1963, one of the early ‘Detroit Sound’ instrumental rock bands. Served in the 5064 US Army Reserve Military Police unit 1964-1970. Moved to Toledo, Ohio in 1973 to enter the Food Brokerage business with Uncle Larry Penner, Harold’s younger brother. Left to start his own Food Brokerage Business, Penner Sales Company, in 1978. Bought Hoffer Food Service Co. in 1987. Bruce & Susan’s children:
i. Sarah Marja Penner
ii. Rebekah Antoinette (Penner) Cleveland2. Stevan Harold Penner, born 1 Apr 1945.
William was a Navy war veteran of World War II and an employee of St. Louis Plastering Company. He died when his car ran off a bridge and into 8 feet of water in Silver Creek in Lebanon.
Adolph was the son of Joseph and Susanna Weber. He was a carpenter for the railroad in E. St. Louis, and in E. St. Louis; Adolph was electrocuted while painting a high tension pole in East St. Louis.
214. Marie WEBER
Married James L. Kitchens (born 3 Nov 1904 and died Jan 1976) and had no children.
139. Rosa SCHMIDT
Rosa and R.I. Hull were living in St. Louis in 1930, O'Fallon in 1955 and in St. Louis in 1963.
This is a story about the living quarters of the Schmidt family done by Kathy Quarti and Rosa Kelly Hull while Rosa was in a nursing home in 1979. "We lived in a long house on Hexabuckle (Lebanon, Ill area) and everyone stayed there. Dad didn't build it. It was already built when we moved in. Brother George lived in a room by himself, but, he never married. Sister Elizabeth and husband lived there too. My other brothers and sisters stayed together in the other rooms. No we didn't have any grandparents that lived with us. Hester lived in 4rooms at one end.
We had a large apple tree in our front yard and when the boys would pass by it they would throw cow dung at it so we called it the "apple shit tree." Next door neighbors were Lindsey, Brown, Raushe or Roesch (sp?) We had a summer kitchen (to cook all meals) Had a stove that would smoke. Emma put some coal oil on it to make the fire better and it blew up and threw her back against the side of the kitchen. Kate and me were making jelly and something fell from the top of the warming oven and hit me on the top of the head. I still have a hole in my head even now.
(Dad Christian) Old man Schmidt- they called him. All knew him and he worked in the mine, on the Railroad, and helped to build a bridge in Lebanon across the creek. (Before he started the saloon) (Christian Schmidt owned a saloon at Whiskey Flats. It apparently catered to the base ball players in St. Louis-- see the sign for the saloon in the picture where Christian Schmidt and Adolph Weber are standing outside and it states BASEBALL HEADQUARTERS. Picture was taken about 1900 and this was when the sport of baseball was just getting popular.) I was stuck on one of the ball players. Will something. When the ball players played ball at Lebanon from St. Louis. (they would frequent the saloon.) I cooked dinner for them at the tavern. I cooked potatoes with jackets (skins) on them all the time. Brother George would crab (she raised her voice to be derisive) "I have to work hard at work all day and then come home and work more at peeling potatoes." George was crabby like dad was.
Father spoke German all the time until he got a certain age and then learned English. (Grandma spoke some but, very little) I wanted to take German lessons, but, father said no I didn't need to know what was going on in Germany.
When I was born no one wanted me. They all said I was "so ugly" and had long black hair. (she had dark brown hair even to very old age 90+ She died at 96yr. age) Father had black hair, but, it turned Gray.
Brothers and father would hunt at Hester's house in Summerfield and we would have rabbit and chicken. Mother was crazy about Buff-Coachens (type of chicken they must have raised) We also had a horse and spring buggy. Belle Whitenmier was my teacher. I only went to 3rd.grade. (my mom Rosemary Rita Hull said this was due to her mom's death and the need for a 9-10 yr. old to stay at home to help with housework). My school was brick and I passed the catholic school on my way. I always wanted to know what it was like. Was good at Geography and writing/ reading. (her handwriting was beautiful for no more formal education other than 3rd. grade-- much better than mine) I walked 10 blocks to school when we lived on Hexabuckle.
We moved to Whiskey Flats when mom died Father started the saloon then. Father lost his first wife on the boat coming over from Germany. She was buried at sea. Father was supposed have been Catholic but, he never went to church. I never went to church. Us kids never went to church. I went to the Methodist church 1-2 times only.
Brother Christ was sweet on one of the Roesch girls and everyone was surprised when he married Bert Father was all for himself. Sister Liz and Em did biggest part of the cooking. Em was a good cook. George and Christ worked in the mine and John a little. I didn't like George. He watched me like a snake. When I would sneak out at night I knew that George would be waiting for me at the gate when I got back. I could put things over on father because he was so old, but not George.
My mom died at the house on Hexabuckle. We had a sled and brother made it. We had good times on it. Christ and father used a horse and buggy to go up town to the saloon. Father would go to St. Louis and be gone all day. I would have to open the keg of beer all by myself. I busted it open. (I can still hear her giggling-- must have been a mess.) Father had a saloon on one side of the street and bought fellow out across the street in the other saloon. Charlie Normer had a place on Hexabuckle St. that father bought for home place. George helped pay for it. Borrowed money from George to help pay for it. (not sure here if she meant saloon or home. but, as a child she lived above the saloon so it could have been one and the same.).
Another memory from Rosa: "I never will forget the time we were going hunting for walnuts and hickory nuts. I held my apron up and said come birdie, come birdie and he shit right in my mouth. We always wore aprons. Big Mother Hubbard aprons and they were full. We would hold them up when we wanted anything."
About working at the worlds fair in St. Louis--" There were rides, down in the boat into the water. They were free since I worked there. Didn't have too much time for rides, had to be in kitchen to cook for people who worked at baby incubator. I got $10.00 a week.”
About work at home-- "Had to wash dishes, sweep, and clean house for chores. Dad was very strict. Generally put me on dishes. Had to eat what was on the table. Many times I remember that there was pie on the window sill and we never got any. "Children was children." The pie was for grownups. Once a month we got a bag of hard candy and gum drops when they paid the store bill."
About food they would eat--interview 8-14-78 "We never had much just used from garden for each meal. If they killed a deer it was salted down and hung in kitchen." (I asked was it the summer house or store house for meat.) "No just put things in kitchen we didn't have fancy things. Would put (garden produce) in the cellar. Used wood and coal burning stove. (to cook food)
About her dad Christian, Rosa said, "Dad and me built septic tank together; he stayed down in the hole and I would carry heavy blocks to him. We were jacks of all trades."
About Rosa's poppy show as a child -- "Get a shoe box and put hole in it. Put a candle in it and bright paper. Take it up and down the street and lets kids see the Poppy Show. It would cost them a pin to see it.
About how Rosa met my Robert Hull -- "I worked for Estella Leyhe making hats for her. Got boxes of hats from factory and made them at home-- trimmed them. (feathers ribbon etc. she was extremely good at sewing items. Organized quilting groups at several churches where she lived. Quilted constantly and used this as income in her later years. I still have 3 quilts she had made for her grand children over the years. We always looked forward to Christmas hoping we would get a quilt. She taught me to crochet and to quilt as well. Mom has several quilts made by her mom Rose. I can remember when she would sell quilts for $25.00 to $30.00 saying "it is just sewing." my mom Rosemary Hull would get mad thinking that people were taking advantage of her generosity. Later in life she did charge $50.00.) Estelle didn't want me to go with dad.(Robert Irvin Hull) I quit making hats before I married dad. We got married at Rock Church (by) Father Enright. I ran away from home before father died and went to St. Louis to live.” She worked at St. Louis Worlds Fair in 1904. .
The son of Patrick E. Kelly and Mary Clark, was a coal miner, and is buried at Collinsville Cemetery, where his sister purchased a plot because Rosa could not afford to.
215. Nellie KELLY
Rosa found she could not afford to care for Nellie after Thomas died, and Nellie was put up for adoption to a Belleville family; it’s possible that Nellie died of T.B. as a child, because an orphanage refused to take her because of her T.B. Trying to find adoption records for her.